Comments on: COURTESY STARTS WITH ME http://www.heartofthe.com/writer/courtesy-starts-with-me/ Just another WordPress weblog Fri, 10 Feb 2012 23:10:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: chaz http://www.heartofthe.com/writer/courtesy-starts-with-me/#comment-73 chaz Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:22:00 +0000 http://erikaryan.wordpress.com/2008/04/14/courtesy-starts-with-me/#comment-73 Cherylp, <br/>I had to think about what you said in your previous blog and I have to agree with you, it is a commentary alright, a commentary on the human condition. People, folks just like you and I seem to have lost control in their lives. <br/>That helpless feeling you speak of can lead to all sorts of abhorrent behavior such as spousal abuse, road rage, substance abuse, etc.<br/>It has been my joy to observe wolves both in captivity and in the wild and to be very candid I must say they at times seem more human than the humans. They pay greater respect and defference to others in the pack than seems reasonable and yet without that sense of integtity the pack would deteriorate and destruct. <br/>I think this has something to do with the 'rules'.<br/>Though unwritten the pack has rules and today people seem to have lost sight of the rules governing an intelligent society. Chaz<br/><br/><br/><br/><br/><br/><br/><br/><br/><br/><br/><br/><br/> <br/>struct Cherylp,
I had to think about what you said in your previous blog and I have to agree with you, it is a commentary alright, a commentary on the human condition. People, folks just like you and I seem to have lost control in their lives.
That helpless feeling you speak of can lead to all sorts of abhorrent behavior such as spousal abuse, road rage, substance abuse, etc.
It has been my joy to observe wolves both in captivity and in the wild and to be very candid I must say they at times seem more human than the humans. They pay greater respect and defference to others in the pack than seems reasonable and yet without that sense of integtity the pack would deteriorate and destruct.
I think this has something to do with the ‘rules’.
Though unwritten the pack has rules and today people seem to have lost sight of the rules governing an intelligent society. Chaz

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]]> By: Chip http://www.heartofthe.com/writer/courtesy-starts-with-me/#comment-72 Chip Wed, 16 Apr 2008 11:35:00 +0000 http://erikaryan.wordpress.com/2008/04/14/courtesy-starts-with-me/#comment-72 So, where you wearing clothes this time? Ha, ha - just joking Chaz.<br/>Courtesy is all about the giving but it certainly is easier when some is returned or at least appreciated. So, where you wearing clothes this time? Ha, ha - just joking Chaz.
Courtesy is all about the giving but it certainly is easier when some is returned or at least appreciated.

]]> By: chaz http://www.heartofthe.com/writer/courtesy-starts-with-me/#comment-71 chaz Wed, 16 Apr 2008 02:42:00 +0000 http://erikaryan.wordpress.com/2008/04/14/courtesy-starts-with-me/#comment-71 Cherylp,<br/>Darned if I don't like the way you people talk. Don't you appreciate Holly? She is a special lady with a gift for wieling a wicked pen. A good deal of my life has been spent dealing with animals but I came to the place long ago where I realized that the real predators are the human kind, but do you know what? The vast majority are pretty darned special and that is coming from somebody that has been ridden hard and put away wet. You take care now ya hear, Chaz Cherylp,
Darned if I don’t like the way you people talk. Don’t you appreciate Holly? She is a special lady with a gift for wieling a wicked pen. A good deal of my life has been spent dealing with animals but I came to the place long ago where I realized that the real predators are the human kind, but do you know what? The vast majority are pretty darned special and that is coming from somebody that has been ridden hard and put away wet. You take care now ya hear, Chaz

]]> By: cherylp http://www.heartofthe.com/writer/courtesy-starts-with-me/#comment-70 cherylp Wed, 16 Apr 2008 02:24:00 +0000 http://erikaryan.wordpress.com/2008/04/14/courtesy-starts-with-me/#comment-70 Hi, Chaz, I'm really enjoying your blog. Holly Lisle pointed her blog readers in your direction, so you may get more traffic.<br/><br/>Ever watch dogs? I'm sure you have. Ever notice how the polite dog always gets picked on? Like it's showing a sign of weakness?<br/><br/>You, as alpha dog, cut in front of the lady, which she accepted without a murmur. You, as beta dog, came back to apologize. She showed you her teeth like a beta dog that suddenly realizes its advantage. At last! Someone I can snarl at without fear of getting my throat ripped out.<br/><br/>And that, I find, is more a commentary on how people react when they feel helpless to change things most of the time. When they do perceive the curve of someone's throat, do they "take the high road" and be polite? Nope. Right for the jugular. Hi, Chaz, I’m really enjoying your blog. Holly Lisle pointed her blog readers in your direction, so you may get more traffic.

Ever watch dogs? I’m sure you have. Ever notice how the polite dog always gets picked on? Like it’s showing a sign of weakness?

You, as alpha dog, cut in front of the lady, which she accepted without a murmur. You, as beta dog, came back to apologize. She showed you her teeth like a beta dog that suddenly realizes its advantage. At last! Someone I can snarl at without fear of getting my throat ripped out.

And that, I find, is more a commentary on how people react when they feel helpless to change things most of the time. When they do perceive the curve of someone’s throat, do they “take the high road” and be polite? Nope. Right for the jugular.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.heartofthe.com/writer/courtesy-starts-with-me/#comment-69 Anonymous Wed, 16 Apr 2008 00:14:00 +0000 http://erikaryan.wordpress.com/2008/04/14/courtesy-starts-with-me/#comment-69 Hey Big Ed, I have the same problem. Ever walk down the row of cars in a parking lot of a mall or grocery store, with someone (or 2-3) coming your way? They don't move over at all, even though they can see you can't get any closer to those cars. I have to completely stop and sometimes they still nudge me. I swear next time I'm bowling someone over, just to see what they say.<br/>I know what Pastor Joe means too. I give talks to school kids, and some of them interrupt like you wouldn't believe.<br/>It's not ALL gone. A kid broke a bottle in front of my house. I yelled at 2 kids, and they said it was a boy I knew. I didn't think he was the type, but his dad made him walk the block over, ring my door to apologize and sweep it up.<br/>~B Hey Big Ed, I have the same problem. Ever walk down the row of cars in a parking lot of a mall or grocery store, with someone (or 2-3) coming your way? They don’t move over at all, even though they can see you can’t get any closer to those cars. I have to completely stop and sometimes they still nudge me. I swear next time I’m bowling someone over, just to see what they say.
I know what Pastor Joe means too. I give talks to school kids, and some of them interrupt like you wouldn’t believe.
It’s not ALL gone. A kid broke a bottle in front of my house. I yelled at 2 kids, and they said it was a boy I knew. I didn’t think he was the type, but his dad made him walk the block over, ring my door to apologize and sweep it up.
~B

]]> By: Ken http://www.heartofthe.com/writer/courtesy-starts-with-me/#comment-68 Ken Tue, 15 Apr 2008 18:35:00 +0000 http://erikaryan.wordpress.com/2008/04/14/courtesy-starts-with-me/#comment-68 Chuck<br/><br/>Not everyone appreciates a gentleman but being one has its own rewards. You can feel good about you and thats important<br/><br/>Ken Chuck

Not everyone appreciates a gentleman but being one has its own rewards. You can feel good about you and thats important

Ken

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.heartofthe.com/writer/courtesy-starts-with-me/#comment-67 Anonymous Tue, 15 Apr 2008 17:53:00 +0000 http://erikaryan.wordpress.com/2008/04/14/courtesy-starts-with-me/#comment-67 Say mister, you are lucky she only snapped at you. My wife would have knocked you down and kicked you. I go around whimpering a lot. Say mister, you are lucky she only snapped at you. My wife would have knocked you down and kicked you. I go around whimpering a lot.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.heartofthe.com/writer/courtesy-starts-with-me/#comment-66 Anonymous Tue, 15 Apr 2008 14:09:00 +0000 http://erikaryan.wordpress.com/2008/04/14/courtesy-starts-with-me/#comment-66 Hey Ulfgeir,<br/>I tend to agree with you but overall the world needs more 'common' courtesy which doesn't seem to be very common anymore. It seems that the bears I run across in the woods have more courtesy than some folks. I appreciate you comin' on board. You have a nice day now, ya hear. Chaz Hey Ulfgeir,
I tend to agree with you but overall the world needs more ‘common’ courtesy which doesn’t seem to be very common anymore. It seems that the bears I run across in the woods have more courtesy than some folks. I appreciate you comin’ on board. You have a nice day now, ya hear. Chaz

]]> By: Ulfgeir http://www.heartofthe.com/writer/courtesy-starts-with-me/#comment-65 Ulfgeir Tue, 15 Apr 2008 13:30:00 +0000 http://erikaryan.wordpress.com/2008/04/14/courtesy-starts-with-me/#comment-65 I'm not quite sure I got the gist of your post. You said you 'cut in front of her'. Now does that mean she was walking down the aisle, and you moved around her, like one car passes another car on the freeway, because she wasn't walking fast enough, or do you mean she was standing still in the aisle, looking at something, and you walked in front of her, blocking her view momentarily?<br/><br/>I've noticed that when I'm browsing through the latest releases at the video store, people will sometimes need to walk in front of me to get past. Sometimes they simply walk in front of me without comment, and sometimes they murmur a quick apology, I assume for blocking my view of the movies on the wall. It seems to be about 50/50. <br/><br/>Personally, I don't understand the people who murmur the apology. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for politeness. But I just don't see anything rude about a person needing to step in front of me for a moment in order to get past. I've never found it offensive when people do this to me. I’m not quite sure I got the gist of your post. You said you ‘cut in front of her’. Now does that mean she was walking down the aisle, and you moved around her, like one car passes another car on the freeway, because she wasn’t walking fast enough, or do you mean she was standing still in the aisle, looking at something, and you walked in front of her, blocking her view momentarily?

I’ve noticed that when I’m browsing through the latest releases at the video store, people will sometimes need to walk in front of me to get past. Sometimes they simply walk in front of me without comment, and sometimes they murmur a quick apology, I assume for blocking my view of the movies on the wall. It seems to be about 50/50.

Personally, I don’t understand the people who murmur the apology. Don’t get me wrong, I’m all for politeness. But I just don’t see anything rude about a person needing to step in front of me for a moment in order to get past. I’ve never found it offensive when people do this to me.

]]> By: Pastor Joe http://www.heartofthe.com/writer/courtesy-starts-with-me/#comment-64 Pastor Joe Tue, 15 Apr 2008 13:28:00 +0000 http://erikaryan.wordpress.com/2008/04/14/courtesy-starts-with-me/#comment-64 Snake eat’ in people really make me molt!<br/><br/>We are all created equal but we must grow into that Stature.<br/>Chaz, it is so good to hear someone like you express the sentiments I have. Where is common courtesy? It used to be common but today courtesy it is an endangered species. <br/>My pet peeve is disrespectful kids. As an adult and a pastor I do not appreciate it when a child calls me, “Joe”. I respectfully remind them to call Pastor Joe. I also humor, “Do not call me Mr. because I stopped being a Mr. when I became a pastor”. Heather, my wife, and I teach our 4 girls to refer to adults as Mr., Mrs., Ms., or Miss. To help them bridge respect and familiarity with our adult friends we’ll teach them to say, “Good afternoon to Mr. Chaz”. We encourage them to use the respectful adult title and our friend’s first names. I think it helps them. My 8 year old daughter, Summer, asked me why I don’ let kids to call me Joe. I answered, “Because they are not my equals. Other adults are my equals. Your friends are your equals but you are not equal to an adult. <br/><br/>Pastor Joe<br/>West Palm Beach FL Snake eat’ in people really make me molt!

We are all created equal but we must grow into that Stature.
Chaz, it is so good to hear someone like you express the sentiments I have. Where is common courtesy? It used to be common but today courtesy it is an endangered species.
My pet peeve is disrespectful kids. As an adult and a pastor I do not appreciate it when a child calls me, “Joe”. I respectfully remind them to call Pastor Joe. I also humor, “Do not call me Mr. because I stopped being a Mr. when I became a pastor”. Heather, my wife, and I teach our 4 girls to refer to adults as Mr., Mrs., Ms., or Miss. To help them bridge respect and familiarity with our adult friends we’ll teach them to say, “Good afternoon to Mr. Chaz”. We encourage them to use the respectful adult title and our friend’s first names. I think it helps them. My 8 year old daughter, Summer, asked me why I don’ let kids to call me Joe. I answered, “Because they are not my equals. Other adults are my equals. Your friends are your equals but you are not equal to an adult.

Pastor Joe
West Palm Beach FL

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